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Jon's avatar

I am an old guy in poor health. One of the drugs I take has a list price of $24,000 per month. My Medicare Part D drug plan undoubtedly pays a lot less, probably around $12,000 per month. My total out of pocket annual drug costs are capped at $2,000, and so effectively the cost to me is zero. The drug is the only one available for the particular condition for which it is prescribed, but it is doubtful that it is benefiting me. The clinical trials showed some participants - a minority - showing a small improvement. It may be slowing the progression of my disease, but maybe not. If it is providing a benefit, it is quite marginal. I am not particularly sensitive to the cost of drugs, but there is no way that I would pay for this drug if Medicare did not pay. Do we really want to incentivize the drug companies to develop very expensive drugs that are slightly better than the alternative?

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I’ve worked in the pharmaceutical industry for 37 years and one of the topics I’ve been involved with is pricing, so perhaps I can help here.

First of all, there isn’t unanimity among drug pricing folks about how to address some of the problems you raise. I’ll discuss some of the approaches.

You are right about the difference between the rhetorical argument for high drug prices and the correct one. The profits from this drug are not necessary to fund the development of the next drug. However, the return of all drugs goes into a database on past drugs, some of which made money and others of which didn’t, and that alters the probabilities that a new drug will make or lose money. The linkage is indirect, but it’s there.

Of course, when explaining the situation to outsiders, the argument is that profits on this drug fund the development of the next drug.

To prevent diversion, one approach has been to limit the sales to the low-priced country. This has been done for Canada, for which diversion is easy and powerful, with the Canadian government demanding low drug prices and Canada sharing a border with a country seeing much higher drug prices. With this approach, the drug company will estimate that the Canadian market will need, say, one million tablets per year. In negotiations with the Canadian government, the supply will be capped at one million tablets. This has two effects. First, it limits the ultimate damage to pricing in the American market. Second, it makes it clear to Canadians that every bottle shipped across the border leaves a needy Canadian without that medicine.

Regarding the “best drug” and the “second-best drug,” that’s really a myth. There are essentially better and worse drugs, but the distinction isn’t as clear as we think, because not everyone will do better on one drug over another. Patient A might do better on the best drug than on the second-best drug, but Patient B might do better on the second-best drug. Patient B might do best on the third-best drug. The practice of medicine is really a matchmaking exercise to find the best drug for each patient. Hence, even “worse” drugs have an important role to play. The more drugs available to choose from, the better for both the physician and patient.

What often happens is the worse/older drugs are kept around for use on new patients. If the patient responds, then the patient gets an effective drug and his insurance company (often called the “payer”) saves money. This is called stepped therapy. Plus, the insurance company uses the existence of the worse/older drug to negotiate a better price for the better/newer drug.

The one therapeutic area where your best/second-best idea may work is HIV/AIDS drugs. The older drugs work well but they just aren’t as convenient as the newer ones (more pills per dose, more doses per day).

People are really irrational about the concept of selling older and/or less tested drugs to poorer countries. In terms of testing, a drug starts out without no human testing and ends with a bunch. Someone must be a guinea pig. But to admit that someone must be a guinea pig makes people squeamish. And the FDA will be right there, saying, essentially, that the drug could be a dangerous killer until the FDA has given its imprimatur. To support this argument, the FDA will look poorly upon a drug company that tries to sell an untested drug to a poorer country.

But there is another good reason drug companies wouldn’t like this approach and that is while the drug is at the FDA being reviewed, any bad news can sink it. If the drug is given to 10,000 in India and 100 people die, whether their deaths are related to the drug or not, that might be enough to doom the drug. In other words, drug companies are super conservative while the drug is being reviewed at the FDA to prevent something that could give the new drug a black eye that it couldn’t recover from. This is why “right to try” laws don’t make much of a difference. Yes, a drug company could give an unapproved drug to a person dying from cancer, but that patient might still die, and it could give the impression the drug didn’t work. Or, worse, it may be implicated in the death.

I estimate that there are many, many good drugs that have failed because some small percentage of the first patients upon which it was tested had a bad response. When this happens, the pharmaceutical company stops development and puts the drug on the shelf. Now, with a bad reputation, the drug is unlikely to be revived by that company or any other. It wasn’t a bad drug, it was just some bad luck.

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