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Rebecca Jaxon's avatar

I have had the same experience, even with my good friends. After Trump was elected, I didn't join in with those who inserted in every conversation, relevant or not, something like "Well, we have a president who <something horrible>" I never joined in, even though it was clear they expected me to also denounce Trump. One friend noticing my lack of response, turned to me and asked "You don't LIKE Trump, do you?!" Years later, she still thinks she knows what I think about every possible political issue, because she has lumped me in with the group of people who wear MAGA hats, follow QAnon, and watch Fox News. I've tried to explain to her what a libertarian believes, and that I recognize the nuance in all these issues, but it's useless. The only way we stay friends now is to never, ever discuss politics at all.

Keep sharing your thoughts, David. It's nice to know that some other people try to think about issues from first principles, instead of as a matter of what one's tribe has told them to think.

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George Kikiros's avatar

Unfortunately gone is that period of history in the US and Australia after WW2 where a more bi-partisan attitude was applied to politics generally as most of the then adult male population (including politicians) had fought in either WW1 or WW2 (and many females had served in the military themselves or the war effort generally and had lost loved ones).

There was a more open society where both sides of politics hoped that their children didn't have to go through what they had had to endure. It grew, for many, out of a mate-ship under fire where all were equal.

We now have the luxury where wars are fought by the few and the remainder have time to be selfish.

Where we are misrepresented for our views (where we try to use reason and logic to discuss a subject), little can be done to correct that misrepresentation.

I believe Mark Twain once said:

"Never argue with an idiot as he (she) will drag you down to their level and beat you with their experience.

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