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Dave92f1's avatar

For some decades, I felt that the patent system did more to deter innovation (by threat of company-killing lawsuit) than to promote it. (At least outside the pharmaceutical industry.)

I eventually changed my mind. Without patent protection against low-effort knock-offs, it can be really difficult for small firms to get VC funding.

But you're correct - patent trolls are a huge problem. I was on the H.264 video codec standardization comittee. The more recent standards have been held up by fights between the dozens of patent holders who can't agree on terms - a huge problem. I suspect we need a must-license-on-RAND-terms rule, at least for patents applying to formally standardized tech.

https://nerdfever.com/the-only-good-patent-is-an-expired-patent/

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You kind of touch on it in your "King's Friend" post but the part you are missing in a feud system is it only works among immediate peers. You point out the Patent Troll problem but you miss the inverse, the "I'm Apple, you're some abject poverty mad scientist / small business", i.e. Apple is free to LEGITIMATELY steal your patents because they have an entire staff of lawyers sitting around doing nothing (sunk cost) whereas you can't even afford a lawyer on consignment. You might win once, probably won't, THEY will eventually win because that have nothing else to do but launch a new suit every single day until one sticks. Likewise the "I control the courts or statute", i.e. in the Federal system you see that with the US Federal Court of Claims where you effectively only bring a claim if you are willing to burn every bridge OR if you are indispensable because magically the USG will bring a criminal investigation against you for filing sometimes (i.e. not tort for tort) and likewise, the USG is immune to punitive and substantial real damages ergo no judge is going to award a $5 Trillion dollar award against the USG and even if they did, no Congress is going to authorize it's payment. Caselaw is littered federally with people that have "won" and never got paid because what the judges can't do is force Congress to appropriate funds. The problem is even worse at the state, county, and municipal levels, it's often why cities don't even care about getting sued, because they are already billions in debt from other lawsuits so they know it's uncollectable.

Feuds work in your quoted system because they are nominal peers. Whereas my feud with Musk means Musk can harm me each and every day because he's rich enough to pay the "harm" when he occasionally loses whereas I can't afford to sue him even once, and even if I could, to your point about imperfect results, he could retaliate with infinite countersuits, I can't, hence he's free to legitimately violate my patent all day every day. And if my feud is with the courts paymaster who violates my patent, you want to bet how the court will rule, i.e. "pay me or cut his own pay". Public Choice Theory.

I'll give a criminal law equivalent. My PO routinely violates my civil rights, and I don't mean that in a "every convict complains sort of way", I mean I have directly on record in writing been told if I go to church I will get violated on a "unrelated technical" and go to prison because "religion is made up hence any person that goes to church is delusion and delusion is a sign of mental illness hence prison for you". Likewise court stated "Your home can be inspected during reasonable hours" whereas my PO said "I'm defining reasonable as 24x7, complain and get violated". Now sure I can "sue" via feud system and maybe I'll even win, but the countersue is "prison for you" and that's not MAD, that's "go to jail, don't pass go" become of things like qualified immunity, professional courtesy, etc .. like even if I got my PO fired, the next one will remember that and "hook me up". Caselaw likewise if full of cases where people have whistle blew, sued, etc only be have a retaliatory "go to prison" arrest happen immediately afterwards, i.e. "you want to sue us? Ok, enjoy those proceed rotting in prison".

That isn't to say feud law doesn't work, it does as you said, but only among peers. Still most harms aren't peer related except accidentally because generally you don't purposely harm on a coin flip.

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