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JDvance and I have had at least somewhat similar* life scripts, so I will offer at least one take on why he’s changed since 2016 because I have too. I won’t delve into every policy issue here.

There are two “cats for Kamala” signs in my town. This stems from Vance’s comments in 2021 about how childless cat ladies were basically running the country. The prompt of this comment was that the main people supporting the Covid lockdown, school closures, and mask policies that were so devastating to those of us with small children at the time (that includes Vance and I) where single professional ladies that could do their job on zoom and were unaffected by them.

This same class of people are also the ones that supported the kangaroo courts of MeToo, the BLM riots, white fragility and DEI struggle sessions, rejection of free speech and wanting to lock people up for opinions, etc etc.

Moreover, it’s pretty clear that the entire backbone of the Democratic Party is those people. Their avatar is now the candidate herself. Electorally and socially its neurotic single women carrying the left on their back.

As both direct (handouts) and indirect (through professional jobs with or mandated by the government) recipients they are the main beneficiaries of government largess.

And well on the issue of childbirth itself things have really gone downhill around the world since 2016.

Now, in 2016 maybe you could have an inkling about this. Hillary’s “basket of deplorables”. But politics just didn’t seem that important in 2016. I voted Trump but mostly just because I normally vote Republican and in some vague sense I was worried about the long term impacts of third world immigration. I didn’t think about it much, I didn’t even vote in most elections.

But it’s been a long eight years and especially since 2020 the mask is off. The left and the right have moved way apart and there really are meaningful differences between them these days. It ain’t the 1990s anymore.

I think that Vance has gone through the same transformation that Musk and many others have. Things have changed a lot since 2016, and it would be insane not to update your evaluation of things based on it. These people give plenty of interviews explaining their views and why they’ve changed.

*we are both about the same age, both got married around the same time, and both have three children. I’m not as successful as him but I do pretty well for myself and too am an educated professional whose parents worked for a living but now inhabit a professional sphere that I find mostly deplorable. He lives in DC and is involved in government. I’m close to DC and have had plenty of exposure to government. My upbringing was much more stable then his but I’m certainly aware of the kind of social behavior he talks about.

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I’m not surprised at all that a politician, even an Ivy-educated politician, would suddenly discover the mercantilist model of international trade when election season rolls around.

Both you and Steve Levitt have pointed this out repeatedly over the years that, A. The model was proven wrong centuries (iirc) ago, and B. Politicians routinely act as if we don’t know that.

I hear Ivy-educated politicians ignoring that fact every single day. Indeed it’s one idea that seems to have broad, bipartisan support, a reason to be suspicious if ever there was one.

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