I generally see single parenthood as a result of impulsive sex. While impulsive people may not listen to long term e.g. financial effects of unprotected sex on them or their children, they might more readily listen to social influences like peer pressure and their social image. Without the taboo of having premarital sex (in fact, it's glorified), they are more likely to have impulsive sex without contraceptives (it's more pleasurable, they forgot to buy some but want sex right now, etc.). Therefore, the single parenthood rate increases as those men flea their partners.
Think: kids are more impulsive than adults, but they seem to listen to their peers. They may not consider their health or future punishments from authority figures, but they'll listen to peer feedback and the effects of social influences. They'll do the bad thing if it makes them look cool even if they risk their well-being and punishment.
It also may have something to do with the women thinking their man won't leave them. Therefore, without social taboos against it, they have sex because they assume their man will stay and take care of the kids and assume they'll be together forever.
The man does it more often for the short term pleasure while some women do it because they are infatuated, want intimacy and romance, and impulsively think things will turn out for the best. Of course both things could be true for both genders (especially the pleasure part. In fact, both probably do it for the pleasure mostly, but the latter might explain some of it).
The social taboo might protect the more impulsive from making bad decisions. The success sequence says that you should (1) graduate high school, (2) get a full-time job, and (3) wait until marriage to have kids. 97% of people who do this escape poverty. The single parenthood rate obviously violates three and likely keeps poverty higher than it should be.
I agree with your last paragraph, but wonder if #3 holds if the people who are currently self-selecting to violate #3 would instead be held to it (through social shaming or other means, rather than having the self control to choose otherwise). I think so, and there's an obvious causal mechanism involved (children can be expensive in terms of both money and time, which is greatly helped by having two adults instead of one), but my confidence is lower about that.
Our social norms evolved to work with our biology to create an evolutionarily fit society and we threw it all away like it was silly nonsense. Only the subcultures that hold onto tradition will survive.
From an Olympic perspective: for a people to persist, each generation must produce sufficient offspring to allow a replacement generation to be selected that is equal in quantity and genetic quality to that which it replaces (because of mutations, this sustainable level of reproduction will necessarily be larger than the ‘replacement level.’)
The mating habits of peoples who fail this test are unimportant.
"preventing the birth of unwanted children, meaning children born to unmarried mothers"
I don't think that's ever been a valid equation: even before the 1960's, there were (a few) women who wanted children but not husbands, and (many more) married people who didn't want to have a child then (if ever), usually for financial or career reasons.
I'm not sure how much impact that correction has on the rest of your argument.
"As long as we only consider effects on adults...plus a net gain;" Just want to point out that this sentence is not literary true, at least not obviously, because of externality. For the whole society it's hard to measure but for the (potential) grandparents (or even close relatives), my guess is that it's more likely to be a loss. At least if we assume parents bear most of the cost, for grandparents of both kinds of women, having grandchildren is probably likely to be a net gain, both long-term and short-term, and I would guess that this a gain large enough to be comparable with the cost for women not wanting to have children to have them.
One thing which will dramatically shift gender relations will be artificial companions of better than human level.
Another is artificial wombs. If humans are still around in 50 years there will be a diverse gamut of reproductive and relationship strategies.
From traditional families. To augmented humans reproducing only with genetical engineering techniques. And with reproduction completely decoupled from gender and sexual relationships
David writes: "In a society sufficiently poor that a woman cannot afford to bring up a child by herself, it is long term or nothing. As a society gets richer more women can choose the short-term strategy, which may appeal to women who cannot find a suitable husband or do not want one. That, allowing for substantial time lags in social institutions, might help explain the large changes in observed behavior in developed societies over the past fifty years." Do you see this society as being richer now than it was even three years ago? Trend seems downward, and, as things become more disorganized with time, I'd expect things to get substantially worse economically. For example, I know an extremely competent young woman who was working for an extremely good salary in the medical device fabrication industry as a consultant last year who is now working for minimum wage.
Got it. I understand, but I'm doubtful. Comparing now to three years ago seems a fraught baseline to use, for obvious reasons. I'm first in line to suggest that we're going to hell in a handbasket, but even I can't foresee a time when there are so few jobs that it would reverse the dynamic David describes. Society as a whole would have to be as poor as current ghettos, where the bulk of single mothers are. That could certainly happen, but from a cataclysm, not from trend lines. But what do I know?
>It is widely believed, may well be true, that children brought up in a single parent household have worse lives than those brought up by a married couple.
On average, obv.
I have to say that I was fortunate enough to meet my soulmate, after failures
I generally see single parenthood as a result of impulsive sex. While impulsive people may not listen to long term e.g. financial effects of unprotected sex on them or their children, they might more readily listen to social influences like peer pressure and their social image. Without the taboo of having premarital sex (in fact, it's glorified), they are more likely to have impulsive sex without contraceptives (it's more pleasurable, they forgot to buy some but want sex right now, etc.). Therefore, the single parenthood rate increases as those men flea their partners.
Think: kids are more impulsive than adults, but they seem to listen to their peers. They may not consider their health or future punishments from authority figures, but they'll listen to peer feedback and the effects of social influences. They'll do the bad thing if it makes them look cool even if they risk their well-being and punishment.
It also may have something to do with the women thinking their man won't leave them. Therefore, without social taboos against it, they have sex because they assume their man will stay and take care of the kids and assume they'll be together forever.
The man does it more often for the short term pleasure while some women do it because they are infatuated, want intimacy and romance, and impulsively think things will turn out for the best. Of course both things could be true for both genders (especially the pleasure part. In fact, both probably do it for the pleasure mostly, but the latter might explain some of it).
The social taboo might protect the more impulsive from making bad decisions. The success sequence says that you should (1) graduate high school, (2) get a full-time job, and (3) wait until marriage to have kids. 97% of people who do this escape poverty. The single parenthood rate obviously violates three and likely keeps poverty higher than it should be.
I agree with your last paragraph, but wonder if #3 holds if the people who are currently self-selecting to violate #3 would instead be held to it (through social shaming or other means, rather than having the self control to choose otherwise). I think so, and there's an obvious causal mechanism involved (children can be expensive in terms of both money and time, which is greatly helped by having two adults instead of one), but my confidence is lower about that.
Good post
Our social norms evolved to work with our biology to create an evolutionarily fit society and we threw it all away like it was silly nonsense. Only the subcultures that hold onto tradition will survive.
From an Olympic perspective: for a people to persist, each generation must produce sufficient offspring to allow a replacement generation to be selected that is equal in quantity and genetic quality to that which it replaces (because of mutations, this sustainable level of reproduction will necessarily be larger than the ‘replacement level.’)
The mating habits of peoples who fail this test are unimportant.
"preventing the birth of unwanted children, meaning children born to unmarried mothers"
I don't think that's ever been a valid equation: even before the 1960's, there were (a few) women who wanted children but not husbands, and (many more) married people who didn't want to have a child then (if ever), usually for financial or career reasons.
I'm not sure how much impact that correction has on the rest of your argument.
"As long as we only consider effects on adults...plus a net gain;" Just want to point out that this sentence is not literary true, at least not obviously, because of externality. For the whole society it's hard to measure but for the (potential) grandparents (or even close relatives), my guess is that it's more likely to be a loss. At least if we assume parents bear most of the cost, for grandparents of both kinds of women, having grandchildren is probably likely to be a net gain, both long-term and short-term, and I would guess that this a gain large enough to be comparable with the cost for women not wanting to have children to have them.
Seems an accurate description of the state of affairs (accidental pun) to me. Upcoming economic conditions, then, might turn the ship around, huh?
Hmm, how so? What economic changes do you foresee, and how would they change this analysis?
One thing which will dramatically shift gender relations will be artificial companions of better than human level.
Another is artificial wombs. If humans are still around in 50 years there will be a diverse gamut of reproductive and relationship strategies.
From traditional families. To augmented humans reproducing only with genetical engineering techniques. And with reproduction completely decoupled from gender and sexual relationships
David writes: "In a society sufficiently poor that a woman cannot afford to bring up a child by herself, it is long term or nothing. As a society gets richer more women can choose the short-term strategy, which may appeal to women who cannot find a suitable husband or do not want one. That, allowing for substantial time lags in social institutions, might help explain the large changes in observed behavior in developed societies over the past fifty years." Do you see this society as being richer now than it was even three years ago? Trend seems downward, and, as things become more disorganized with time, I'd expect things to get substantially worse economically. For example, I know an extremely competent young woman who was working for an extremely good salary in the medical device fabrication industry as a consultant last year who is now working for minimum wage.
Got it. I understand, but I'm doubtful. Comparing now to three years ago seems a fraught baseline to use, for obvious reasons. I'm first in line to suggest that we're going to hell in a handbasket, but even I can't foresee a time when there are so few jobs that it would reverse the dynamic David describes. Society as a whole would have to be as poor as current ghettos, where the bulk of single mothers are. That could certainly happen, but from a cataclysm, not from trend lines. But what do I know?
>It is widely believed, may well be true, that children brought up in a single parent household have worse lives than those brought up by a married couple.
On average, obv.
I have to say that I was fortunate enough to meet my soulmate, after failures
https://www.losingmyreligions.net/
Before we met, she had known more partners and had decided she would be alone.
My wife, in contrast, had never dated anyone — and concluded that she never would.