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Jim Dunning's avatar

Really appreciate this analysis — your framing of the “intensive margin” as ornamental rather than insight-driven hits the nail on the head. I’d like to extend that critique upstream, into the K-12 system and the college admissions pipeline, where the groundwork for this ornamental math culture is laid far earlier — even as early as pre-K.

In many high schools — elite or not — Calculus has become a symbol of college readiness, not because of its intrinsic value, but because of what it signals. States now push calculus access as an equity goal. Counselors warn students they’ll be shut out of competitive majors without it. Parents and teachers treat it as the gateway to a “real” future. The result is a kind of fetishization: math not as a tool, but as a ticket.

Why? Because at the college level, high-level math courses are routinely used to screen students out of capacity-limited programs like CS, pre-med, and yes — Economics. Even when the skills aren’t essential to the major, calculus becomes a blunt gatekeeping instrument. So students rush to AP Calc in high school, not because it’s enlightening, but because the system quietly made it mandatory.

Which brings me to Econ itself. Some departments may be dressing themselves in the same quant-heavy prerequisites not out of curricular necessity, but out of academic competition — or just prestige mimicry. If CS and Engineering use math to assert rigor, Economics seems to be borrowing the same costume — emphasizing formalism not because it clarifies thought, but because it signals seriousness.

Take four schools: University of Washington (Seattle), UC Berkeley, University of British Columbia, and UC Santa Barbara. All have selective Econ majors with seat caps. All require multiple college-level calculus courses. And all have created conditions where high school students now feel pressured to prep early — often through AP Calc or higher — to stay competitive in admissions.

So the ornamental math you describe isn’t just an internal affliction of academic economics — it’s a cultural export, baked into the broader educational signaling system. We’re not teaching students to think like economists. We’re teaching them to mimic the inputs elite institutions have learned to reward.

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Atanu Dey's avatar

Since David mentioned Neuman and Wigner, I would like to leave this here.

Enrico Fermi famously asked "Where are they?" Leo Szilard had an answer. “They are among us,” he said, “but they call themselves Hungarians.” Plausible because Hungarians are weirdly super-intelligent. In fact, they have been suspected of being "Martians."

The following bit is from the wiki:

“The Martians” was the name of a group of prominent scientists (mostly, but not exclusively physicists and mathematicians) who emigrated from Hungary to the United States in the early half of the 20th century. They included, among others, Theodore von Kármán, John von Neumann, Paul Halmos, Eugene Wigner, Edward Teller, George Pólya, and Paul Erdős. They received the name from a fellow Martian Leó Szilárd, who jokingly suggested that Hungary was a front for aliens from Mars.

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