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Peter's avatar

Amen. As an genuinely innocent person who just plead to 5 years probation with time served after finding out his options were appeal ineffective council while sitting in prison starting the subsequence week on 10 years no parole in protective custody or accept the plea in the next ten minutes per judicial order (not even prosecutor order), well I can tell you the effective torture leading to a duressed confession even in open court is real when you got a bad judge who is working with both counsels to railroad you for a reelection campaign of the prosecutors boss and judges friend in a big town.

Appeals aren't real when you have to file them from prison and they write the pleas do you can't appeal them either. The system is a joke.

What we really need, since the plea isn't going anywhere, is to legislate away the trial penalty or formalize it as something like "max twice the plea offer" as well as remove all language preventing appealing the plea.

Yes I'm in a bit of shock right now, this post hit so close to home giving the timing.

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Nick O'Connor's avatar

There's also the mental torture of the extended criminal investigation and trial process; frequently years long, and one that multiple people have described to me (both victims and accused) as being worse than the original crime (in the case of victims) or the supposed punishment (in that of those accused). Exposing victims to torture takes things further even than the medieval Chinese. And I find it difficult to explain, or justify.

It serves to dissuade people from putting themselves in risky situations, I suppose. Maybe it also slakes the thirst to hurt and control people that motivates some to seek employment as police officers, prosecutors or judges - and which changes in the judicial process have made difficult to quench in more old fashioned ways. Sadism will find a way.

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