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Matthias Görgens's avatar

These might be less bad than other tariffs. But they are still way worse than (unilateral) free trade.

Especially since they aren't as automatic as you make it sound: there's lots of judgment calls involved in whether certain policies count as tariffs.

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Andy G's avatar

I think that you are, like most Trump critics, being unfair to him by taking some of his words literally, rather than the entire body of what he says seriously.

To be fair, you ARE, especially here, indeed somewhat more open-minded about the possibility that he is trying to “do good” with his use of tariffs than most of the critics.

And I *do* grant that on this topic there is indeed *some* evidence of mercantilist and other bad economics beliefs coming from him.

But if you look at the vast majority of what he has DONE with tariffs, both his first term and this time around so far, it is to use them as leverage to negotiate a better deal. And since in fact he is not completely economically stupid, he does indeed understand that lower trade barriers make everyone better off. Just because he does not fixate on this point, and just because he talks of other things, and certainly just because he talks belligerently as part of his negotiating leverage, does *not* mean that he doesn’t understand this.

And unlike part of *your* proposed idea here, his threats with tariffs are not solely to have reduced tariffs percentages by the other side, but also to reduce or eliminate other non-tariff trade barriers (e.g. with China). And, of course, to get other non-trade concessions.

So I applaud your somewhat novel explication of “automated” tariff reduction, and give you credit for crediting Trump / his administration with this.

I just wish you would be more charitable with your interpretations on other action + pronouncements as well, rather than joining the “take Trump literally but not seriously” crowd.

P.S. Re: Vance, by contrast, based on reading one of the links you posted a few months back and listening to him on Rogan, I agree that he mostly *understands* the economics, but he has made it quite clear he does NOT value the efficient economics as highly as most of we classical liberals / libertarians do, or even as much as Trump himself quite clearly does.

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