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Joe Mintoff's avatar

I’m not sure that consequentialist arguments for libertarianism /are/ superior to moral ones. First, as you note, even consequentialist arguments depend on the moral assumption that “good “outcomes are morally good, and so even consequentialist arguments are actually moral arguments, but this is not a problem since “I can leverage the existing moral beliefs of the people I am trying to persuade”. But, second, why can’t the non-consequentialist do the same? This is precisely the strategy of a newer breed of libertarian, who argue from comparatively weak moral claims (accepted by very many people) to apparently strong libertarian claims, the best examples being Michael Huemer in his /The Problem of Political Authority/ (as already noted by another commenter) as well as Dan Moller in his /Governing Least/. As Huemer points out, most people are libertarians on a personal level, and would never dream of personally forcing their re-distributive values on others, yet they approve of other people’s (ie, the government’s) doing this, without, it seems, any good explanation of the morally relevant difference between the two cases. This seems like a very good argument, and one which is liable to deliver a version of libertarianism which endorses a set of /intrinsic/ rights to person and property, which I at least find more congenial than the /contingent/ rights—especially re persons!—delivered by consequentialist versions.

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Gary McGath's avatar

Without moral arguments, you can't determine if an outcome is consequentially good or bad. Is the standard "the greatest good for the greatest number"? This immediately runs into the problem of commensurability; if an action provides a benefit to A and a harm to B, how do you add them together to determine if the total is positive or negative? Does euthanizing all terminally sick people have net positive consequences? Maybe; it ends their suffering, improves the average health in the population, and frees up a lot of resources. Talking about results is important when trying to convince people, but by itself without moral standards it can't justify any system of government.

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