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Andy G's avatar

“That is one example of a broader point. Under institutions of secure property rights and voluntary transfers, individuals gain by the existence of other individuals as potential trading partners. In a transfer society that is no longer true — individuals may correctly believe that it is in their interest to keep out people, potential free riders or rivals for power.

It might even be in their interest, given the power, to push them out.”

Thank you for being the rare open borders - or “we should have compassion for illegal immigrants” - advocate who acknowledges that, in our current system of a very large welfare state, people who oppose mass illegal immigration can take that position from a legitimate rational basis, not merely because they are “hateful bigots.”

Doctor Mist's avatar

The argument against redistribution because of the advantages of secure property rights is a compelling one, but not completely compelling. Absent the moral argument (and I believe you are correct that Sunstein would reject it), it leaves you open to disagreements about policy priorities.

A government rightly taxes to provide for the common defense. A government might well decide that redistribution to fend off internal revolution is an equally compelling expense. I believe Turchin suggests that the New Deal was precisely such a decision. (If so, I believe it was a feckless choice, but hanging your argument on practical considerations leaves you open to such.)

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